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|July 13, 2015
Just updated the Antioch Rebroadcaster app
In the past few weeks I've done upgrades and additions to Counterspy, Broadway is My Beat and added The Line-up.
Before that, at the end of May I released the Antioch OTR mobile apps
for iOS and Android.
February 28, 2015
Changed the frequency to 1610 KHz so I make no particular
claims about getting around town as this frequency is competing with
many stations day and night. I moved it to 1610 because I've only ever
heard signal reports from amateur radio operators nearby but never from
anyone else over the course of 11 years. I hear the kids now don't even
know what AM radio is. Also the rules are easier in the true AM
broadcast band and my current objective with the terrestrial side of
the station is to go back to my original idea of giving content to the
antique radios in the house and power the bedside crystal radios. Since
the frequency is no longer a big part of the station, I've slowly
removed references to AM 1710 and now ID as "Old-Time Radio Antioch".
I released a new version 1.0.4 of the OS X dashboard widget. I'm not
sure how much dashboard widgets are used but the new version has some
fixes and an updated icon.
I'm considering some small schedule changes after over 5 years since
the last change. It will not be very major but it will allow some of
the long-time listeners a bit of rotation on the types of shows they
hear. There's more in the works but you'll have to wait for that.
February 19, 2015
I'm really late with this kind of feature but I just made it
so the main page now dynamically updates without a browser refresh.
January 17, 2015
Classical music was indeed played often in the early days of
radio so their use on AM 1710 is not so out-of-place. See here.
November 29, 2014
We'll be running Christmas Serials beginning today @ 3:30PM
& 8PM to run through December 24th.
November 18, 2014
Added 211 Escape episodes to Mystery/Thriller this past week. I'll be
running the advent/Chrismas series The Cinammon Bear playing two
episodes a day starting in mid-December to culminate in the ending near
September 11, 2014
Just completed 108 audio upgrades to The Whistler while also adding 21
November 16, 2013
After 12 days, here are the results of the poll:
November 4, 2013
I put a poll up on the left side of the site with the idea of
getting some feedback on the idea of making a separate channel for
period music of the 30's and 40's.
It's been asked why we don't just play period music in between shows.
Some background: AM 1710 pays no royalties for playing OTR. That was
challenged by SoundExchange and I hired a lawyer to show we didn’t have
to but that meant AM 1710 couldn’t play anything that has royalties
which includes any music from 1928 up. Of course it would be very
natural to use period music in between shows but due to the way the
laws are setup for collecting royalties, we would be paying royalties
for the total number of hours the station plays everything instead of
just when the music plays. This would amount to at least $2,000 a year
with no clear way to properly report the OTR shows even if we did agree
to pay royalties for them.
By running a separate channel, all royalties would be correctly
collected for just the music. Also the audio quality of a separate
stream would be better suited for this music. How much this would cost
would depend on the popularity. For both streaming and royalties it
might be somewhere between $900 and $1,200/year for a dedicated server
and royalties which I would combine with the amount needed. Thus the
question to AM 1710 listeners since this expense would be combined.
October 29, 2013
DSL to Antioch went down at 2AM. I had us on backup through Verizon but
as the DSL sputtered on and off it apparently disrupted the backup
during the morning as it tried to switch back to the DSL. Everything
looks back to normal as of 10:40AM.
October 21, 2013
TuneIn is now properly using the one correct URL which should now solve
issues particular with their Android apps. Unfortunately, over two
weeks is the norm for very simple support requests with TuneIn as I had
a similar wait to get credentials from them for their AIR API in August.
October 8, 2013
TuneIn update: For any users of TuneIn where AM 1710 is not playing, go
to Options, then Choose Stream. You may see 3 different streams. Choose
one that works. Right now only the top one works for me.
Apparently all TuneIn needs to do is remove the dead wood or program
their app so it rolls over to a working stream would be smart. On the
Samsung SmartTV it does this as I watch it attempt to make 3
connections quickly before working. This is new since this didn't work
before so perhaps not all 3 "streams" were available before. On iOS,
all the streams work. Honestly, I don't know why they show 3 streams
when as far as I know there's only one. I don't think anyone is
relaying right now. Perhaps they are all different URLs to the same
stream and iOS is more accommodating than Android.
As for squeezebox, I don't know how that works and whether you have the
ability to go to options then choose stream or whether it will auto
rollover to a working stream like the SmartTV does now.
October 3, 2013
Here are some tips regarding getting reconnected after our switch to
I'm told by users that those devices which use reciva as their radio
directory have the url corrected to connect to AM 1710 again but that
previously created presets will not work again until you redo a search
for AM 1710 and play it from the results of that search.
TuneIn is working for their web player and in iOS but is not working on
the Android and Samsung Smart TV. I tried entering the stream URL in
TuneIn Pro on android and TuneIn will play the stream but we are
waiting for TuneIn to make the correction to their directory listing so
far for about a day now. This problem could affect any devices
that use TuneIn as their directory.
If your device or software used shoutcast as the directory, we are no
longer listed there.
If you can manually enter the stream URL for your software or device,
the correct address is http://lin2.ash.fast-serv.com:9022
October 1, 2013
- C-Crane: I did a search by state and Antioch came up and
- Grace Audio Mondo: They'll need to do a fresh search for
Antioch. The search [at least for Grace Audio or any other service that
uses Reciva] should find the updated URL. At that point save it to
whatever preset desired.
- Sangean (reciva directory): Working again. New search for
AM 1710 or Antioch might have been needed.
- Reciva in general: I searched for AM 1710 Antioch, and it
came in fine. After that, the preset worked as it usually does without
having to preset it again. So all is well with reciva, but you might
have to do a search for the station even though you have it listed in
"my stations." I was going to delete the old station and replace it
with the new one I searched for but it wasn't necessary. As soon as the
searched station came up and I clicked on it to play, everything seemed
to reset itself. So if any reciva users ask about it, just tell them to
do a search on the radio for your station and click it to play and
everything will reset itself.
- Logitech Squeezebox (old model): Not working after
searching for AM 1710 again. (Device might be using TuneIn directory so
manual entry may be needed. Directions here):
Today we moved from shoutcast to icecast as our streaming server and
increased our limit from 1,000 to 1,500 listeners. We've been
hitting the ceiling a lot in the past few weeks. We kept the same
server address and tried to keep things as compatible as possible to
how you connected before. There are some unavoidable changes such as
the fact that without running shoutcast, we can no longer be listed at
shoutcast.com by the terms of their service. I've changed the
supporting code on the website for icecast and changed the flash player
as well. I confirmed that the old URL continues to work as does the
iTunes listing now in "Internet-->News Talk Radio" in iTunes 11.1
If your software or device no longer lists AM 1710, it was probably
using shoutcast. If you can manually enter the URL it is
http://lin2.ash.fast-serv.com:9022 or if that doesn't work, try
Very shortly I'll update the expenses to reflect the additional costs
for this year.
June 16, 2013
Expect a short outage Monday afternoon, Jun 17th. The
electrical meter box outside needs to be replaced. UPS probably won't
keep things up for the whole length of the replacement time.
April 5, 2013
Last night's outage from about 12:20 AM to about 2:30 AM was due to a
networking failure particularly with the OS and DNS that not only
wouldn't allow any network connections, it wouldn't allow iTunes to
open. I gave up on finding a fix and re-installed the OS which solved
March 26, 2013
I've removed the TuneIn app referral from the left column. In the free
version of the app and on their website player, they are now injecting
audio ads which changes the imaging of this station. Listeners don't
know that it is not this station that is running and profiting from the
advertising, but TuneIn. This station is listener supported and ad-free
for that reason. I provide this service so that connections are instant
and fast with no re-buffering since we use a burst buffer. TuneIn only
provided the app and the radio directory. They don't contribute in
anyway to the stream. I think display ads are acceptable for a free app
but they go too far by injecting the audio ads. Their pay version
doesn't have the ads but we still have better free and pay options.
My other issue with them, which also has to do with imaging, is my
long-standing problem with their art selection. In order to avoid
TuneIn from showing pornographic art, I've needed to change the artist
permanently to "ABN - OTR". Yet they still choose some of their own art
and have refused to allow broadcasters to opt-out of the art. Instead
they blame stations for not having correct metadata. I hear this from
other broadcasters as well. I can't do better with the metadata. This
is Old-time Radio and they should give me an option to opt-out of art.
This claim is bogus anyway because I run a music station with perfect
metadata and TuneIn picks the wrong art 80% of the time. And they do
this to other stations as well. I've written them about it several
times on behalf of my station and on behalf of customers of my radio
playout software Radiologik and they do nothing but blame the stations
back. As a developer I've had other issues with them for months so I've
notice a long pattern of poor responsiveness from TuneIn.
In conclusion, stop using TuneIn. Pick something else. There are good
apps like OneTuner
on iOS among others. I don't do as much on Android so if you have a
suggestion, feel free to email it to me.
October 5, 2012
Fixed the Superman serial which was playing episodes out-of-order. We
reset to start at episode 195 today.
September 21, 2012
Seeing the numbers in the 800s at night doesn't quite give the picture
that these listener maps do so I wanted to share what it looks like at
the peak hours on a typical weeknight. 95% of the listeners at 3 AM CT
are in the U.S. or Canada.
The zoom levels I'm allowed are sparse so this is the best zoom picture
I could get of most of the U.S. and Canada. The pattern follows a population
map very closely.
And here's the breakdown by countries and players. Wireless devices,
which include phones, tablets and iPod touches, have certainly grown
over the years.
September 1, 2012
AM 1710 is back on iTunes radio in News / Talk Radio
after a 24 day absence. Apple gives no explanation for it so I can only
guess. Originally AM 1710 was in News / Talk Radio but was moved to
Eclectic with iTunes 9. I never asked for that. There's now a
requirement that all streams be a minimum 128kbps mp3 or 64kbps AAC in
all genres except News / Talk Radio. Perhaps Apple just removed it from
Eclectic for this reason since we are 24kbps. Whatever the reason, I'm
disappointed by the lack of communication, explanation or apology for
over 3 weeks. That said, the communication with Apple iTunes support
was very responsive when I took that route about 3 weeks into this but
they were powerless to help. Thank you again to all those who sent
Apple feedback during this time.
August 28, 2012
Day 20 without AM 1710 in iTunes Radio.
Thanks for your emails and help contacting Apple with iTunes feedback
regarding the delisting of AM 1710 from iTunes Radio. There is still no
response except automated replies from Apple to my emails. I don't see
how this is anything more than a technical or clerical error. I've
further emailed the same iTunes radio email address today suggesting
that they move AM 1710 to News/Talk Radio if their requirement is that
stations have 128kbps streams for the other genres. I've also written
Apple support for iTunes and detailed everything there. I just don't
understand why Apple won't give me the dignity of an email back after
20 days. I write my customers back in minutes, hours and usually no
more than a day depending on the urgency of the email. Why does it have
to be such a fight? The bigger the company, the less responsive?
Update 5:30 PM: I received a personal reply quickly from
iTunes account support but they were only able to tell me that we are
doing the right thing by using the feedback. So go at it folks--Give
August 17, 2012
With no notice, AM 1710 was delisted from iTunes radio on
Wednesday August 8, 2012. Remarkably, it hardly made a difference in
the volume of listeners. We topped 816 last night. I assume the
delisting is a mistake as other OTR stations remain listed, even twice
sometimes even though Apple says they don't allow that. When it was
first pointed out to me by a listener, I immediately emailed Apple
through their official email for radio listings and followed all the
protocols of how to format the email and the request. Their
auto-response says that submissions and updates could take up to 5
days. On Wednesday August 15, 2012, I sent a new station submission
email following Apple's protocol to add AM 1710 to News/Talk Radio.
It has been 8 days and 6 business days and no response on the first
inquiry email and 2 days on the new station submission email. Now I
question if Apple is hearing me at all. For my business, I try to
answer my customers the same business day if not within the hour. I was
really hoping this would be resolved a little more quickly but at this
point I'm welcoming listeners to send their feedback to Apple via the
April 27, 2012
After hitting the 800 listeners ceiling several times for
up to 2 hours at a time this past week, I've moved our maximum up to
August 24, 2011
The TuneIn people told me I shouldn't use titles if it
isn't music. I disagree. But rather than pick a fight with them I've
figured out that if I make the title preceding the dash something that
consistently doesn't find art in a search at last.fm, I can have it
display the AM 1710 logo all the time. So now all titles start with
"ABN OTR -". The Green Hornet can now return without TuneIn listeners
having to look at a naked lady carrying a chicken by the legs.
August 23, 2011
Sorry for the Superman
episodes that were not fully playing. I've previewed episodes far ahead
of what is played and heard none of these problems. In fact they opened
fine on other computers and devices. I tried OS updates and iTunes
update over the weekend but the problem persisted. I replaced some
episodes that were troublesome and that fixed it but the problem kept
happening. The actual solution ended up being just removing the tracks
from iTunes and just re-adding them.
Incorrect art on TuneIn app
noticed the problem with very incorrect art that the TuneIn app for iOS
has been trying to grab from Last.fm. But the art for The Green Hornet
has crossed the line from incorrect art to plainly pornographic. I've
contacted the maker of TuneIn but so far their emails have put the
blame on my titling. So until we can come to a more amicable solution,
I'm removing The Green Hornet from our playable library.
Flash Player and Lion
The Flash Player on this site on the left is not working with Mac OS X
10.7 Lion in Safari but it does work with the latest Safari in Snow
Leopard and also with Firefox in Lion. I reported this to Apple a month
ago but it's not certain who needs to make the fix. I tend to think
this is an Apple Lion issue with Safari since two different flash-based
players work in Firefox but don't work in Safari.
DSL issues resolved
If you followed my tweets a couple weeks ago, you would have read about
both my main and the backup DSL going out at the same time for
different reasons. The main went out due to line trouble and the backup
was working at that time but when I thought I'd do my own
troubleshooting of the in-house wiring to be sure the problem was not
in the house, when I tried to reconnect the backup DSL, it wouldn't
authenticate. AT&T disconnected my service and couldn't tell me
why. After 4 attempts to find out why over a couple days, I asked that
all my service on that line be removed. All I could figure is that when
I made the request to set me at the speed I ordered, instead of the
arbtrary speed they set incorrectly a couple weeks before, they must
have disabled authentication and cancelled service. Weirder yet is a
couple days after disconnecting phone service and DSL on that line, an
AT&T guy shows up to install new service. And he wasn't even
installing the correct speed I originally asked for either but the
incorect speed I never asked for. Of course I told him the basic story
and he said he'd sort it all out. Verizon 3G turned out to be a
terrific backup so I will no longer keep an extra DSL line here.
July 23, 2011
I just fixed the Widget so it works again (version 1.0.2). I'm still
disappointed that Quicktime gets tripped-up apparently by the streaming
metadata so you'll hear skipping every couple minutes. So for the best
experience, I don't recommend it. If anyone is not hearing these skips,
I'd like to know.
I just fixed the encodings for the playlists so accent characters show
December 8, 2010
I've received a fair number of complains about the music. The reason we
play classical and piano music is to avoid $2,000.00/yr in royalties
that would be due to Sound Exchange for our mere 30-45 mins of
incidental music if we choose to play music of the period. I need
filler for the way this station runs its schedule and this is the best
I can do right now.
We received considerably more than our financial needs this year even
with the challenges of legal fees and purchasing a whole new computer.
I've used the extra to help upgrade my audio restoration software and
have already worked on hundreds of episodes in the comedy sections this
month. Starting today, I'll start receiving for 2011. The amount needed
will start out less at $3,000.00 for the year to pay for the streaming
server and a dedicated internet connection here.
If we are far ahead of schedule for donations in 2011 I may elect to
use the extra to get legal help to possibly allow us to play period
music again without having to pay unreasonable royalties.
If you can advise on a good Android app to play AM 1710, I'd be happy
to present that info here. Just write me using my email address at the
top of the home page.
November 13, 2010
A listener pointed me to another iPod Touch/iPhone app that I now think
is the best. TuneIn
Radio is $1.99 and features background play, sleep timer, record,
pause and resume or replay, and it offers a nice radio directory, link
to our website, and the basic weekday schedule is there as well,
although I'm in the process of getting radiotime.com to correct the
info for the weekends and serials. It's also perfect for responsive and
November 4, 2010
I finally got myself an iOS device--an iPod Touch 4G. And now I finally
got to see what it's like for many of you who have listened on this
device. It gave me a chance to try different streaming apps out and
I've determined that Tunemark
Radio (99˘) is the best. It has a sleep timer (which many of you
use AM 1710 for as do I), it has a link to the home page on this site,
it streams in the background and even pauses and keeps a running
buffer. You can go back a few seconds or minutes and relisten to a
portion if you need to. It allows you to set your own background I
choose to use a very nice warm shot of one of my antique radios.
October 12, 2010
I've expanded the Superman
from 325 episodes to 983 episodes. The new episodes will span September
1945 through September 1948 and we get to hear Batman and Robin acting
in the plots starting in 1945 too. I and my three kids are running
through these episodes ahead of the station schedule for a quality
check before airing. The run of Superman should go probably to the end
of 2011. The Superman that played today and yesterday were not
originally meant to play on AM 1710 and we will return to the serial
starting with episode 205 in the middle of the Dr. Deutsch and the
Radium Mine story starting tomorrow.
September 22, 2010
The new Mac Mini with external HD is here and currently running AM 1710
after I decided late last week to go ahead based on donations so far
and cash onhand. Over the course of the day yesterday, I cloned the
whole setup. I put the new box on the air late last night after I
observed the two boxes running in perfect parity for a couple hours.
Total downtime was maybe 5 seconds.
The new Mac uses about 1/10 the power as the 2002 G4. This is little
enough power that I expect it should easily survive power outages over
an hour or more and shut down nicely if the outage is too long. Even
with the portable external HDD, it is nearly silent. The only other
time this room has sounded this quiet was during a power outage so it's
still a bit disconcerting.
This is the first time I've used a brand new Mac for AM 1710 and it was
purchased by your donations. Thank you.
August 14, 2010
Our lawyers have determined that we do not owe royalties to Sound
Exchange for our playing of old-time radio shows unless Sound Exchange
can prove otherwise and now we have answered Sound Exchange's lawyer.
There are a few other issues about our content I need to clear up with
our side but this challenge did add $1,000.00 to our expenses.
Certainly worth it to do the right thing. Had we just paid the default
to Sound Exchange, no one at Sound Exchange was able to tell me of any
owners who would have been properly paid. This is a battle we are
fighting ourselves ultimately on behalf of all old-time radio streaming
stations since we are the only ones we know who have been challenged.
And this is one of the first good bits of news.
August 2, 2010
I have a lawyer that's agreed to look into the Sound Exchange situation
and give us some clarity.
July 26, 2010
Our expenses may be higher that expected due to a requirement to pay
royalties to SoundExchange and register with the Copyright Royalty
Board of the United States Copyright Office. Should we increase our
monetary need, based on the donations so far this year I've decided
it's very likely listeners will step up to the challenge and we'll
I've operated with the assumption that all material presented on this
station, in particular the old-time radio shows, were not or are no
longer under copyright based on the laws covering material between 1923
and 1963 so long as those copyrights were not renewed. I believe it is
possible that this may exempt us from SoundExchange royalties.